POE : what if... just regular summoner

manual cast - SRS
Kitava - Spirit Offering - Summon Skelly - Animate Weapon - Inc Duration
Zombs-MD-MPD-MSpd
Specs-MD-MPD-Multi
Golems---Clayshaper+Redblade ring OR Golem-MD-MPD

POE : What If....Dak Pact manual...?

 to force Minion Instability!

MI low life is 35%, that means we have to take out 65% of their life!
that comes about 11 cast of dark pact...

Dark Pact - Spell Echo - Chain - Fast Cast --- Void Man - Ctrl Dest
BBBG--
Skelly - Minion Life - Echo or From Dust
BBB

Spell Totem - Unearth - GMP - Volley
RGGG

Kitava = Spirit Offering - VD - DD - SRS

OK Lets try this....

KITAVA - VD-DD-SO-SRS
2B2G

CHEST - Self Cast Dark Pact
DP-Echo-Chain-Fast Cast/Void/Ctrl
BBG---

or poison Dark Pact,,,,

damn this just open a new can of worms!

Shadow - Trickster -- all DoT and Chaos
Self cast - Dark pact - Chain - Echo - Fast Cast
Totem - Wither - Fast Cast
Kitava - Despair - Essence Drain - Contagion - Volatile Dead - Desecrate -

POE : Sticky Notes Notes

Cold Snap-Ele Prof-SCascade-Ice Bite
30+20++15=65% Chance to Freeze
Trees=25% chance. Total 90% chance
Ice Nova (10-31)-Echo 140%-CtrlD 130%
Hearld of Ice 25% Frostbite 35% - Clarity
or,
ColdSnap-Ele Prof-Cascade-Ice Nova on Kitava
manual cast Frostbolt(20)
FB-Echo-CtrlD-ColdPen 140%-GMP 165%


KITAVA-Desecrate-Cascade-Spirit Off-VD
Unearth+GMP+Echo+ArSurge--Gloves
Boots-Zomb+Golem+Poison+Min Life/Dmg
Chest-Ue-GMP-Echo-ArSurge-CtrlD-DOFL
1h--Specs-Inc Dur-AOE-
1h--cwdt-FrostWall-
Clarity-Discipline/Hatred
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Unearth 20-23
GMP 165%
Echo 140%
Ar Surge 110%
Apex 140%
Ctrl Dest 130%
DmgOFLife 130%

MPD 140%
MultiStrike 180%
LGOH 150%
Melee Splash 160%
Ancestral Call 140%
Dom Blow 16
Cyclone 12

Unearth - GMP - Echo - Apex - Fevered = say 20 x 1.65 x 1.4 x 1.4 = 129mana

POE 3.1 : Half Trigger

OK
Spell Totem - Unearth - GMP - Volley
Volatile Dead - Ele Focus - Ctrl Destruction - Echo/Cascade - Conc effect - Fire Pen

Kitava : Desecrate - Spirit Offering - Skeleton - Dark Pact
Maligaro - CWDT 1 - Spirit Offering 8 - SRS 10

hmm lets take a look at previous plan, full auto trigger
OK lets try to arrange SLOTS :
Helmet - CWDT 16 - Skeleton 18 - Dark Pact 18 - Spell Echo 20
The Scourge - CWDT 16 - Desecrate 18 - Spell Cascade 20
Maligaro - CWDT 1 - Spirit Offering 8 - SRS 10
CHEST - CWDT - Bodyswap - Lightning Warp - Blade Vortex
CHEST - Clarity - Discipline
Gloves - CWDT 20 - Skel 20 - Echo 20 - DP 20
Boots - CWDT 20 - Volatile Dead 20 - Deto Dead 20 - BladeFall 20

now with kitava....
we have Spell Totem Corpse-maker....

HMMM lets try SRS - Min Dmg - MPD - Min Speed -
HMM CANNOT CANNOT....problem is with corpse-making. Totem not fast enough!

OK, manual cast Unearth - Volley - Echo - GMP
Unearth - Volley 1.4 - Echo 1.4 - Arcane Surge 1.1 - Ctrl Destruction 1.3 - FastCast/AddedFire/Chaos
Unearth cost 8-23
4-Link Unearth manual cast!
KITAVA - Skeleton - Dark Pact - Volatile Dead - Bladefall
MALIGARO - CWDT 1 - S.Off 8 - SRS 10
APEPS - CWDT 10 - S.Off 14 - SRS 15
GLOVES - CWDT 20 - Skel 20 - Dark Pact 20 - Volatile Dead 20
BOOTS - CWDT 20 - Deto Dead 20 - Bladefall 20 - Spirit Offering 20
CHEST - Unearth - Volley - GMP - Echo = 14 corpse. w/o Volley is 10 corpse
CHEST - Clarity - Discipline
HUNGRY LOOP - Zombies - Min Dmg - MPD - DoFL - Maim
get 2 Heartbound Loop instead!

GRRR OK, now its not even Minion build LOL

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Lets see if we ... hmm nevermind. lets try double apep double heartbound

lets try minion again!
SRS - Min Dmg - MPD - Min Speed -- Multistrike
12 x 1.3 x 1.4 x 1.4 -- 1.8

nope. lets try dual apep.
VD (up to 31 mana) x Ctrl D 1.3 x Ele Focus 1.3 x Fire Pen 1.4 x Apep 1.4 x Apep 1.4

POE 3.1 Auto Trigger v.2

no KITAVA
add ROMIRA
HEARTHBOUND LOOP
MALIGARO'S LENS
no need APEP'S RAGE

hmm no need ROMIRA, need RT for that.
OK, add another Unique - THE SCOURGE, so that Minion Damage apply to Dark Pact

lets make a table first for CWDT

1

528

-70%

38

5

812

-54%

46

10

1354

-34%

56

15

2184

-14%

65

16

2394

-10%

66

17

2621

-6%

67

18

2874

-2%

68

19

3142

+2%

69

20

3272

+6%

70

and our TRIGGER SPELLS
we need SPIRIT OFFERING, badly.

 wait, important notes here :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1839547

this guy has a detailed mechanic explenation of multiple CWDT setups, search for "CWDT follows these rules"

TLDR version (and yeah, I know, this one actually needs a TLDR itself, but it is a bit complicated with CWDT, so that is as short as it gets)

• level of CWDT doesn't matter other than how much damage you need to take to cast the spell and if the spell can be cast at all, as CWDT has a level requirement for the triggered spells
• same level CWDT, different level spells works
• different level CWDT with different level spells works
• same spell different levels multiple times in the same CWDT doesn't work
• same spell same levels multiple times in different CWDT doesn't work
• there is a specific order in both the sockets within an item and the items within your equipment, in which the spells are cast.

so for your question: you can have three CWDT with three discharges, as long as all discharges are different levels, all three will be cast, however, they will be cast in order depending in which gear slot they are socketed (the last point in my list).

the three CWDT don't need to be different levels, they can be all three the same level, however the three discharges need to be of different levels.

edit: and in order for the second (and third) discharge (according to the order of the gear slots in which they are socketed) to do anything, you need to be able to generate charges after the first (and second) discharge went off. if you can manage this, it should be possible. otherwise I'm not sure if they trigger at all, and if they do, they most likely won't do any damage, as there are no charges.

OK lets go back.
CWDT 1 - 38
SPIRIT OFFERING 8 - 38
maybe SRS 10 - 36

Summon Skelli 8-36...10-42...15-57...17-63...18-66...19-68...20-70
so maybe CWDT 16(66)---SS 18(66) - DP 18(66) - Spell Echo!

wait wait, need DESECRATE
CWDT 16(66) - Desecrate 18(66) - Spell Cascade 20

another set CWDT
CWDT 20 - Skel 20 - Echo 20 - DP 20

Now, Perisa! Volatile Dead and Deto Dead, and Bladefall
CWDT 20 - Cd 20 - DD 20 - BF 20

another set
CWDT - Bodyswap - Lightning Warp - Blade Vortex

OK lets try to arrange SLOTS :
Helmet - CWDT 16 - Skeleton 18 - Dark Pact 18 - Spell Echo 20
The Scourge - CWDT 16 - Desecrate 18 - Spell Cascade 20
Maligaro - CWDT 1 - Spirit Offering 8 - SRS 10
CHEST - CWDT - Bodyswap - Lightning Warp - Blade Vortex
CHEST - Clarity - Discipline
Gloves - CWDT 20 - Skel 20 - Echo 20 - DP 20
Boots - CWDT 20 - Volatile Dead 20 - Deto Dead 20 - BladeFall 20

OK thats it! have fun!!

edit : passive tree www.poeurl.com/bGev
edit : one CWDT to spawn Zombies.
Hungry Loop for Spectres with Bones of Ullr and tree = 3 specs
new tree
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POE : Summoner 3.1

The Hungry Loop

Unset Ring

Item Level: 80

Requires Level 70

Has 1 Socket

Consumes Socketed Support Gems when they reach Maximum Level
Can Consume 4 Support Gems
Has not Consumed any Gems

Loop 1 - Zombies - Min Dmg - Min Speed - MPD - Multistrike
Loop 2 - SRS - Min Dmg - Min Speed - MPD - MS

Zombs - AG - AW - SRS - Skels - Specs - Golems - Wolf

Hmm still Kitava?
Kitava - Spirit Off - Volatile Dead - SRS - Bladefall - Deto Dead
Heartbound Loop

Heartbound Loop

Moonstone Ring

Item Level: 71

Requires Level 20

+17 to maximum Energy Shield

13.9 Life Regenerated per second

36% increased Mana Regeneration Rate

Minions have 15% increased maximum Life

Minions have 10% increased Area of Effect

350 Physical Damage taken on Minion Death

CWDT 1 - Spirit Offerings - srs
CWDT max - Blade Vortex - Cremation - Inc Duration


LETS GO AGAIN

KITAVA - Summon Skeleton - Dark Pact - Volatile Dead - Detonate Dead - Bladefall
CWDT (lvl1,lvl38-528dmg) - Spirit Offering (lvl8-lvl38-23chaos-24res) - SRS (lvl10, lvl36)
CWDT max level - Dark Pact - Deto Dead - Bladefall

20

3272

+6%

70

CWDT 19 - Dark Pact - Bladefall - Summon Skeleton

19

3142

+2%

69

that concludes HELM, BOOTS, GLOVES.
CHEST :
Unearth - Volley 1.4 - Echo 1.4 - Arcane Surge 1.1 - Ctrl Destruction 1.3 - FastCast/AddedFire/Chaos

HUNGRY LOOP
Zombies - Minion Damage - MPD - Minion Speed - Ruthless/DOFL

APEP'S RAGE - Spectres - Minion Damage -

MALIGARO'S LENS - Stone/Chaos Golem - Minion Damage

or Spectres - Golem - Minion Damage
and Spell Totem - SRS - Minion Speed

Info from Matt:

Physical

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Kitava's Herald

One of the best melee spectre in the game. They are 3 abilities that they spam, Cleave at very short ranges, Leap slam at medium range, and a mortar spell at long ranges. They are incredibly tanky and and clear and boss dps decently well. One of the best performing "tank" spectre.

• Attack speed will increase their action speed and will improve clear speed
• Leap slam has a 50% of Physical Damage as Extra Fire Damage
• Cleave has 25% less Attack Speed and Attacks cause Bleeding
• Mortar deals pure physical damage is an AOE Spell Projectile
• Note Act10 versions are bugged for desecration trick, use Act5

http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Kitava%27s+Herald

Category	Description
Uses	Leap Slam, Cleave, Mortar, Default Attack
Tags	Minion, Spell, Projectile, Melee, Duration, IAOE
Implicit	May inflict Bleeding
Damage	140%,
Range	0~1 screens away
Defense	360%
Resistances	0 Fire | 75 Cold | 0 Lightning | 0 Chaos

• Locations:

  Campaign: The Cathedral Rooftop (lv45)

  T6: Race Course

  T11: Shaped Race Course

POE : Triggered

SHOPPING LIST :
Kitava
Mjolner x2
Romira
Fevered Mind x2 (10c each)
Brotherhood ring

Kitava-Mjolner-Romira--Kingsguard
GLOOMFANG

Gloomfang Blue Pearl Amulet
Requires Level: 77
(48–56)% increased Mana Regeneration Rate

0.5% of Chaos Damage Leeched as Life 
Lose (10–15) Life for each Enemy hit by your Spells 
Lose (20–25) Life for each Enemy hit by your Attacks 
Skills Chain +1 times 
Projectiles gain (15–20)% of Non-Chaos Damage as extra Chaos Damage per Chain 
Gloomfang

MJOLNER x2
Arc-
Discharge-
Ball Lightning
Storm Call
Shock Nova
Spark

SHIT! Gloomfang dont count towards CWDT. Abis rancangan aku!

Mjolner 1 - Arc - Spark - Ctrl Destruction
Mjolner 2 - Discharge - Ball Lightning - Storm Call for LULZ
Kitava -
Idea 1 - Desecrate - Spell Cascade - Volatile Dead -
hmm Discharge on Cascade is too much LESS DAMAGE

Mj1 - Arc - Iron Will - Lit Pen - Ctrl dest
or buy a few and corrupt them, hoping for good corruption, err NOPE, not much good mods.
Mj2 - Discharge - Ball Lit - Ctrl Dest

what makes ball lightning better than arc? Arc has with 20q has shock chance

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[–]dmillz89Theorycraftician 1 point 1 year ago 

It procs romiras multiple times on single targets and gives you way way more power charges.

Kitava - Storm Call - Cascade/Ball Lit - Lit pen - Ctrl Dest - Ele Focus

Lit Strike (6mana) - MultiS 180% - Ancestral Call 140% - Faster Att 115%
LGOH 150% - P2L 110% - WED 140%
Wild Strike 6 - MultiS 180 - AC 140 - LGOH 150 - WEd 140
muzukashii!

Cyclone 12 - LGOH 150% - Fortify 110% - COMK  140%- VolDead = 27.72
plus 2 fevered mind 110.88
or just on Gloves : Cyclone - LGOH - COMK - VD x 2 fevered = 100.80
Mj1 - Arc-Pen-CtrlD
Mj2 - Ball -